198 points | by palata12 hours ago
(mirror: https://files.catbox.moe/icky5m.mp4 )
It's as much "Roman Salute" as Julius Caesar used to eat lettuce with croutons for a meal.
That's nearly always the case when you see [flagged] on a submission, btw. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.
(It's a bit more complex with comments, but also the majority of [flagged] comments are flagged by users, not mods.)
It seems entirely disingenuous to come into this thread and pretend you are entirely separated from the flagging of this post when you are actively supporting it!
I expect even more censorship on this site for the next few years (especially criticism) as even the mods and higher ups are kneeling down on this administration just a few hours into it.
Not a good look.
Truly, Donald Trump could decide tomorrow to refuse audience with Zelenskyy and only meet with Putin. Russia's treasury would be hemorrhaging within a week and the government would be paralyzed in the middle of an active invasion. That would be dangerous for America and NATO allies, but what does that concern a non-member like Ukraine after all?
Russia has spent 30 years on life support. America and Ukraine simply disagree on how we pull the plug.
As for the nukes, pretty much exactly what the Nazis would have done if they had gotten some.
As an aside, this YT channel has the best series I've seen on WW2. They go through the war, week by week, telling all that happened that week. There are several mini-series like Crimes Against Humanity and Spies and Ties. The production quality is really good too
https://www.youtube.com/@WorldWarTwo
They are doing one on the Korean War right now
Written by a former nazi paperclip scientist
You would have known that your statement is not fact had you read the article you linked, especially the section about the claim:
> Interest in this novel increased in 2021 when people connected Elon, the Martian leader, to SpaceX founder, Elon Musk, suggesting that von Braun may have predicted Musk's space exploration ventures.
No substance?!
This is not some 'they caught a single frame where it looks like something it isn't' rage bait.
The video is extremely clear.
I expect even more censorship on this site for the next few years (especially criticism) as even the mods and higher ups are kneeling down on this administration just a few hours into it.
It has to be all or nothing. There is no apolitical discussion of modern technology, and this Trump/Musk ticket is going to show everything that's wrong with embracing such a fickle guideline. The worst part is, it's only going to contribute to HN's decline in civil digression and make perfectly intelligent people question why they use this site in the first place. We need this sort of discussion, otherwise people become complacent and tone-deaf like Elon.
Someone posts Paul Graham's post talking about "woke" ideology and mods/admins do nothing about it
While this one stays flagged
At least be consistent
Most of the users that can [flag] also have the option to [vouch]. If enough vouch the flag is reveresed (as far as I know).
Note that the same thing is true for comments. Occasionally, but not often, you'll find a [flagged] comment that isn't [dead], you can't vouch for those either. Only once they become [dead] can they be vouched for.
Addendum1: I haven't compiled a detailed cross referenced list of observations about HN .. but it's got a lot of little subtle quirks from custom coding .. I suspect there's a window for submission vouching that's only open to users with certain other privlege escalations, or perhaps a stochastic element throws that chance to a random few .. eg: I have no option to vouch for this flagged submission, but I have had that option on others.
Addendum2: Jtsummers may well be right. There may also still be other odd little factors <shrug>.
Okay. He does comment most days.
> He is upholding the flag, ..
Is he? Like "actively" .. or just letting things work as they are designed and as HN users have made happen?
> which makes him complicit.
Does it?
If so, is there a legal path by which we can punish him for this?
Maybe you've invested a little to much of yourself in an online forum.
Musk and PG are both heroes in the startup / tech / VC world.
For better or worse, it's hardly surprising that this forum is very supportive of them.
More like the Kardashians of the startup/tech/VC World. Fake gaming creds, claiming to work 80hrs/week while having 60hrs of tweets.
At first I figured the video would show him making some vague imitation people were overreacting to but no, full on mind blowing salute.
“It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured,” Musk said.
Similar past use by Hitler.
“Only the Aryan can secure the future of civilization through his creative and organizing power.”
https://efiretemple.com/analyzing-adolf-hitlers-use-of-the-t...
can't discuss shit on HN
Unlike, say, reddit, which has a bunch of subreddits for various topics, hacker news only has one feed. So it is naturally more restrictive about topic.
I can see how reasonable folks can see this post as sort of grey area, but at the end of the day, the users of hacker news flagged this post, the moderator -- who I've historically found to do a fantastic and neutral job of monitoring -- believes it does not meet HN guidelines, so I think this just isn't the platform to discuss this news. And that doesn't seem unreasonable, either. I'm sure there are other places to discuss it online.
Not a good look at all.
Once you've learned to count backwards to zero
"In German, und Englisch, I know how to count down
Und I'm learning Chinese!" says Wernher von Braun
Either he is the most ignorant, idiot who bought himself an election through his own propaganda platform and that was a 'normal' TX.
Or he had a very fucked up mental moment doing a Nazi salute.
Feel free to choose what you prefer though
"The Roman salute, also known as the Fascist salute, is a gesture in which the right arm is fully extended, facing forward, with palm down and fingers touching. In some versions, the arm is raised upward at an angle; in others, it is held out parallel to the ground. In contemporary times, the former is commonly considered a symbol of fascism that had been based on a custom popularly attributed to ancient Rome.[1] However, no Roman text gives this description, and the Roman works of art that display salutational gestures bear little resemblance to the modern so-called "Roman" salute."
